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Message-ID: <20141001161439.GA7831@kroah.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 09:14:39 -0700
From: Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Healing the bash fork

On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 12:08:15PM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 08:55:35AM -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 07:15:56AM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 01:08:09PM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote:
> > > > Am Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:19:55 -0400 (EDT)
> > > > schrieb "David A. Wheeler" <dwheeler@...eeler.com>:
> > > > 
> > > > > Finally: *PLEASE* let me know if you have any good ideas on how to
> > > > > find vulnerabilities like this ahead-of-time. My article "How to
> > > > > Prevent the Next
> > > > > Hearbleed" (http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/heartbleed.html) lists a
> > > > > number of ways that Heartbleed-like vulnerabilities could have been
> > > > > detected ahead-of-time, in ways that are general enough to be
> > > > > useful.  I'd like to do the same with Shellshock, so we can quickly
> > > > > eliminate a whole class of problems.
> > > > 
> > > > The "class of problems" here is imho that we have a bunch of tools that
> > > > get rare attention from anyone, are run by few volunteers, but they're
> > > > an essential part in running the Internet.
> > > > 
> > > > Just think about busybox, curl, wget, coreutils, gettext, gzip, ... - a
> > > > vuln in any of these could have severe consequences.
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe the topic here should be: "How can we get the (whitehat) IT
> > > > seucrity community to have a deeper look at neglected but important
> > > > opensource projects."
> > > 
> > > The LF has the Core Infrastructure Initiative:
> > > 
> > >   http://www.linuxfoundation.org/programs/core-infrastructure-initiative/faq
> > 
> > Yes, that's exactly what that group is doing, and they have a huge list
> > of these types of projects that they are looking into funding to help
> > prevent this type of thing from happening again.  I'll go add bash to
> > the list there as I don't think it is currently on it at the moment.
> 
> Could we also update the FAQ to include "How to recommend a project?"?
> A few days ago I tried to recommend bash.  I dug around, and finally
> just sent an email to Ted.  Which I don't think is the correct answer
> ;-)

It isn't, but Ted is a good contact for it :)

Fixing the FAQ is on the list of things to do that was discussed at the
last meeting, hopefully it will be done soon.

thanks,

greg k-h

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