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Message-ID: <CACk28AVsy=dhkqsYX8wFn-mv+oxuvpEjjgZd4fFwN8RC7RanrQ@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 10:47:53 -0300 From: Noilson Caio <caiogore@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: What am I doing wrong? Thanks for the explanations. On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> wrote: > Sandra, > > What you were doing wrong was using a non-informative message Subject. > This almost made me delete the message without reading, thinking that it > was spam. A better subject would have been e.g. "cracking MD5 hashes", > or even just "MD5". > > On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 11:20:09PM -0300, Noilson Caio wrote: > > change your echo something like the merge between passwd and shadown > > This makes me wonder: as a list moderator, should I be rejecting > messages with wrong advice on technical issues, even when they're > obviously well-intentioned? I reluctantly approved Noilson's posting > this time, in part because some active list members' postings bypass > moderation and they sometimes contain wrong advice too. ;-) > > > like this: > > > > bash-4.2# echo "onu:c231df9a8f34cee959cbc6bcca4a9286:::::" > teste > > bash-4.2# echo "tdc:f5ba7db80ba2d7d7b650119d52fcd8d0:::::" >> teste > > bash-4.2# ./john teste > > Loaded 4 password hashes with no different salts (LM DES [128/128 BS > > SSE2-16]) > > Sandra specified that those were (presumably) MD5 hashes, so getting > John to load them as LM is of no help. The extra colons (":::::") make > no difference anyway - the hashes may be mis-loaded as LM regardless. > > She was getting "0 password hashes cracked, 0 left" in response to > "john --format=MD5 --show /tmp/hashs" for three reasons at once, every > one of which was sufficient on its own: > > 1. The "--format=MD5" option requests md5crypt, not raw MD5. > > 2. "--show" is for showing previously cracked passwords, not for initial > cracking of hashes. > > 3. There's no raw MD5 support in "official" versions of JtR (such as the > 1.7.9 release); it is a jumbo feature. > > And yes, our historical use of "MD5" vs. "raw-MD5" for format names > keeps causing confusion for new users... > > Alexander > -- Noilson Caio Teixeira de Araújo http://ncaio.wordpress <http://ncaio.ithub.com.br>.com.br<http://ncaio.ithub.com.br> http://br.linkedin.com/in/ncaio http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/by/ncaio http://www.dicas-l.com.br/autores/noilsoncaioteixeiradearaujo.php
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