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Message-ID: <CANnLRdgmfPB6sx+Bnxw7ef5LUsU_cJR+iLg5MFGtgF7ahGvZmw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:02:12 -0600
From: Stephen John Smoogen <smooge@...il.com>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: "Password security: past, present, future"
 presentation slides are now online

On 31 May 2012 21:17, Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> PHDays 2012 was great!
>
> The slides from my "Password security: past, present, future" talk are
> now online:
>
> http://www.openwall.com/presentations/PHDays2012-Password-Security/
>
> You may also download them in PDF format.
>
> I ended up not focusing on the future as much as I had intended to,
> largely because I simply could not fit that in 50 minutes while also
> providing sufficient background info for people to understand the
> problems that I am proposing how to solve.  There are 9 slides focusing
> on the future, out of a total of 52.  Nevertheless, I think overall the
> experiment went well, and the future part may be expanded in a new
> revision of the presentation - maybe if the speaker is given more than
> 50 minutes or/and the audience is readily familiar with the problems.
>
> I'd appreciate any comments.

Wow that is a lot of information and background. I forgot about the
old Crypt based off the WWII crypto device. Also the information on
the changes from when I dropped out of security in 1994 and 2004 was
very interesting. In general I have found that people end up saying
put 1-5 minutes per slide because of questions and asides. So this is
actually 3 different lectures packed into one. [Far past state,
present state, future state.] One thing I would have been interested
in was not as much the cryptographic speed ups as the guessing
speedups. Using the markov modes, smart guesses and even the way
incremental tries to find as many via various patterns is the what I
find intriguing as they are they are the techniques that will be used
against even super slow authentication methods for good results..

> Alexander



-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.
"The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance."
Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University.
"Years ago my mother used to say to me,... Elwood, you must be oh
so smart or oh so pleasant. Well, for years I was smart. I
recommend pleasant. You may quote me."  —James Stewart as Elwood P. Dowd

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