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Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP188CDB2C651FD1F85FACD73FD370@phx.gbl> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2012 21:55:16 +0200 From: Frank Dittrich <frank_dittrich@...mail.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: automation equipped working place of hash cracker, proposal Re-post of what I accidentally posted on john-dev instead of on john-users: Hi Aleksey, it seems like you really did think a lot about an optimal work flow for a team of pen testers trying to crack many passwords with different password hash types. To get the discussion going, may be you could elaborate a bit: What would an optimal work flow look like? What would be similarities and differences between collaborative cracking by a team and cracking by a single person with enough hardware resources? What kind of problems (deviations from an "optimal" work flow) did you recognize during or after the 2012 CrackMeIfYouCan contest? Which were the most significant problems? How could software tools have helped avoiding those problems, or reducing their impact? Which parts of the work flow could benefit most from automizing / supporting them with minimal programming effort May be when you share your thoughts, it will be easier for others to comment. May be they agree with you about what the most important problems were, but don't agree about how easy it might be to address these issues with additional software tools. May be other list members offer insights about other problems you didn't recognize so far or which you took as less important for the overall success. At least we'll hopefully get some discussion which helps decide what could / should be part of a GSoC project to help improve collaborative password cracking. Frank
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